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25: Which is more important: your family or church family?


Which is more important: your family or church family?

with Michael Jensen and Megan Powell du Toit

Marriage, singleness and old folks

For argument’s sake: where we take a debate, cut out the party politics and try to talk it out

Are family values biblical?

What’s more important, our nuclear family or our church family? Do we idolise marriage in the church and in society at the expense of other relationships?

Megan and Michael decode the cosy phrase “family values” and look at what the Bible actually says on the topic.

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Megan and Michael sometimes like to use big words, so here’s a glossary of particularly lofty terms in this segment.

  • deleterious: causing harm or damage
  • raison d’etre: A French phrase meaning reason for being
  • sesquipedalian: used to describe a word that’s very long (OK this wasn’t really mentioned in the segment but you see why it’s applicable)

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Dani Treweek and a theology of singleness

Our guest this episode, Dani Treweek, has spent a lot of time thinking about singleness and the church – as a single Christian woman, a minister and in writing her PhD on a theological and pastoral ethic of singleness.

“Part of the problem with singleness is that we see it as a problem because it’s not marriage,” she explains.

Michael and Megan chat with Dani about the biblical view of singleness and marriage, and how the church can better relate to singles.

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Marg and Dave: reviews from two people obsessed by stories, but not always the same ones

ABC TV’s Old People’s Home For 4 Year Olds

This heartwarming ABC documentary raises a key social issue: our treatment of older people. “This is a bit of a weeping sore for us in the West,” says Michael.

Megan points out that it also highlights the social isolation and lack of intergenerational contact in our society – experienced by both young and old.

Cue the church: “one of the only institutions left where we do have people of all ages coming together.”

While the final live episode of Old People’s Home For 4 Year Olds recently aired, you can watch all episodes in the series on ABC iview. Warning: box of tissues needed. (And stay tuned for Michael’s suggested new series: Old People’s Home For Teenagers. ABC, are you reading this?)

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Fact check:

Michael mentions a few statistics in this segment. Here’s the research:

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Less aggro, more conversation.

Is it even possible to have a deep discussion without it descending into chaos? Michael Jensen and Megan Powell du Toit think yes, and want to show the rest of us how to do it.

There’s plenty of things they disagree on: free will, feminism, where you should send your kids to school and what type of church you should go to. But there are also plenty of other things that they have in common. They want to talk about all these things with conviction. But they also want the conversation to be constructive. Tune in to find out if that’s possible.

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