
Just when you imagine Christians are all so heavenly minded they’re of no earthly use … the Bible itself brings us back to the earth. That’s where the action is. In fact, the final great scene of the Bible doesn’t have us all floating up to heaven. It has heaven coming down to earth.
Down … to … earth. There’s a lot in that phrase.
As far as religions go, Christianity is arguably the most down-to-earth perspective you could imagine.
LINKS
Download a transcript of this episode here
- Winnie The Pooh loves honey in the books and every movie he’s in, but particularly the 2011 version we quoted from.
- This episode is sponsored by Zondervan’s new book, Becoming All Things by Michelle Ami Reyes
- Meet our guests for this episode:
- Andrew Wilson, London pastor and author of a new book called God Of All Things: Rediscovering the Sacred in an Everyday World
- Tish Harrison Warren, Anglican priest and author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life
- Read Psalm 19, which begins “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.”
- Read more about CS Lewis’ “supposals” … and check out The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe while you’re at it.
- Watch the heartwarming Old People’s Home for Four Year Olds. This one’s the Australian version.
- Or, for a similar feeling, watch Ted Lasso on Apple TV. John Dickson called it “the best show since The West Wing” … and that’s high praise!
- Read more from James K.A. Smith on cultural liturgies.
- Read more about CS Lewis’ conversion to Christianity.
- More reading, this time on Wendell Berry from the New Yorker.
Meet our guests

Tish Harrison Warren is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life (Christianity Today‘s 2018 Book of the Year) and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep (Christianity Today‘s 2022 Book of the Year and 2022 ECPA Christian Book of the Year).
Currently, Tish writes a weekly newsletter for The New York Times, and she is a columnist for Christianity Today

Andrew Wilson is Teaching Pastor at King’s Church London, and has degrees in history and theology from Cambridge (MA) and King’s College London (PhD). He is a columnist for Christianity Today, and has written several award-winning books, most recently God of All Things (Zondervan, 2021).
Want to send John Dickson a question? He loves them. Just click here to provide a query for our next Q and A show!
Undeceptions is part of the Eternity Podcast Network, an audio collection showcasing the seriously good news of faith today.

